Topic on Adventures in Odyssey Wiki:Town Hall2

My Favorite Topic. I was thinking about something: The "Products" page is still lacking the complete listings it should have, is there a way to add more "Products" that are not the "Album" or "Video" ie "Go West Young Man" is technically the "Episode" of the Video Series, but the "Go West Young Man" PRODUCTS include Multiple VHS, DVD, and special collection items, etc. Same with say "Album #2" I have multiple Cassette, CD Releases, similar to how "the Imagination Station" can be a single cassette, cd sampler or part of multiple albums. I know it might seem like a lot of "Duplicate" content, but if I'm looking for Specific information about a book like the 2nd release of the 2nd edition of Passages book 3, then it really would be nice to have it as a separate item(Page) with a link to the "Current" Book 2 as far as overall content. Ie: Grins Grabbers and great getaways, yellow clamshell with green stripe label cassettes vs the Whit character image cassette. I am partly trying to organize MY Collection using the Category option with the OF=no I can easily could items i don't have, but I am not able to easily count and categorize on the wiki items i do own because they are not listed as "Products" they are albums or videos or books, but those really encompass multiple releases. Please provide feedback on feasibility if not for ALL Products, then at least for "not-current". I guess similar to what the Scoop did for their "Quarantine" items.

I'm not sure if this is the best solution, but I think it solves all the issues.

Currently the products on the wiki encompass all the additional merchandise, it does not include any of the books, albums, or videos. To be able to add product versions of each of those we need to separate the products from the content listing. Currently the album page for Album 70 is what I am calling the content listing. In this example a product listing for Album 70 would have the same album artwork, but would not need to have the track listing, nor notes or writers. This is strictly information about the cd release. Its product page would have information such as cd release date, isbn, etc. Also spiting the product listing from the album would greatly help simplify the earlier albums where they were repacked under a different name. As a further example take Life Lessons 02: Humility, we only need one content listing for that album, yet there would be two product pages because of the repack.

I was thinking because the product listings and (for instance) the album listings can have the same name, yet entirely different information we create a new "Products" namespace. That way we can keep the current system of albums, books, and videos on the wiki while adding product listings for each book version, album release, and video rerelease.

As a bonus, using a separate namespace for products will greatly simplify the dpl logic to generate "reports" of what product versions you have. We could even make an "Odyssey fan collection" page that automatically lists everything in your physical collection.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but ideally you'd like to have each version of every aio product (that includes the books, videos, and albums) catalogued on the wiki. Which would enable you to mark your collection and see what you still do not have.

I saw what you did with the Go West Young Man/VHS/EN/TN. I suppose that is the other way of doing the product versions, yet I think subpages is less optimal than a new product namespace because of all the different versions. We would end up with quite a hierarchy of subpages categorizing all the product variations.

Adding product listings for everything is quite different from how the wiki was designed, and quite frankly it was just not set up to do that. That is why even if my suggestion, a new namespace, sounds drastic I think it is the next step for the wiki. To add something of this magnitude requires rethinking the current system.

Sounds like you understand, I realize it's not a simple ask. When I started there were like 30 product Pages, now there are over 600, if this works, we could see that increase by over 1,000. and there are still a LOT of Clubhouse Magazine pages missing. You got the right idea, seeing what I did with the GWYM VHS, the ideal targets in Albums are the 1-51 Variations, Tyndale and Tommy Nelson, and repacks. Those sometimes released under a different ISBN# sometimes not. I have only recently discovered some even more obscure cover variations in the Public School Edition VHS tapes. the Life Lessons, Passages Books and even some Products pages can be split into variants. in the Pencils/ Stationary category mainly. so yes Big Project. but one that will make the Wiki a literal encyclopedia of information about AIO.